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| Saberoph | May 25 2014, 06:16 PM Post #16 |
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Well look at it this way... Dr. Gero was stronger than #19 and SS Kakarrot was struggling against him and his attacks did knock him around, but they really didn't do anything to him. Where Piccolo was able to toy with Dr. Gero... do the match. |
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| + Majin Vegeta | May 25 2014, 06:20 PM Post #17 |
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True, but we also have a statement in the beginning of the fight by Tien that SSJ Goku's power was in a "different realm than all of us" so what's the deal here? |
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| Saberoph | May 25 2014, 06:22 PM Post #18 |
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At the end of the Saiyan arc his power was already completely overpowering nearly everyone as it is... then add the Frieza arc, where he had everyone completely outclassed, then he trained on Yardrat, then trained for 3 years... of course he's going to say that and Piccolo was suppressed at the time, so Tien couldn't feel his full power. |
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| + Majin Vegeta | May 25 2014, 06:26 PM Post #19 |
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Agreed, but that would make Piccolo > SSJ Yadrat Goku, if Piccolo was > Sick Goku, and Sicm Goku was described as a different realm than the rest if them, that implies that Sick Goku > Yadrat Goku. |
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| Saberoph | May 25 2014, 06:28 PM Post #20 |
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It would either be = or >. I do think there is a decent increase between the two Kakarrot's, but I don't the increase is insane. |
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| + Pyrus | May 26 2014, 12:31 PM Post #21 |
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To this I would bring up an old disagreement we had on Vegeta surpassing Goku. http://dbzf.co.uk/single/?p=8974245&t=8468175 http://dbzf.co.uk/single/?p=8976326&t=8468175 Though it appears you're more willing to accept to Vegeta's superiority at this point, so it may be rather moot. When it comes to the true topic at hand, I would give Vegeta a minor advantage over Goku. Piccolo at first was unsure if Vegeta was stronger. It took him a while to come to the firm conclusion that Goku had indeed been surpassed. On the other hand, Trunks was always seen as inferior to his father and Goku, but never by any lengthy amount. You can view my opinion on this here, which is coincidentally another disagreement me and The Assassin had. He should still be on their coattails. Piccolo's strength was vaguely implied to be much improved when we're first introduced to everyone after the time skip, in that he displayed confidence in facing opponents that scared Super Saiyan Trunks, though he still had ominous concern over the end result of the overall event. When faced with Android #20, who had absorbed Super Saiyan Vegeta's blast and some of his own suppressed power, he easily dealt with the mechanical foe. #20 by that point was stated to be capable of defeating Super Saiyan Vegeta if he merely absorbed the humans' power and another dosage of Piccolo's (mind you: "surpass" and "defeat" are two different paths in this case, especially for a ki-absorbing being). On top of that, you had Vegeta claiming #20 was a lot faster than he thought, this after considering #19 with his and Goku's power absorbed as being worthy of a trip to the junkyard. On top of even that, you had him being considered the androids Trunks talked about, which should read like a textbook for how strong he had gotten by absorbing their powers. In terms of numbers, perhaps I would entertain myself with something like this: Vegeta - 100 Goku - 97 Trunks - 90 Piccolo - 70 My gaps may be a bit smaller than some others. Edited by Pyrus, May 26 2014, 02:15 PM.
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| Saberoph | May 26 2014, 04:18 PM Post #22 |
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Yeah, I don't think they're very far apart, but I think it would be noticeable if things broke out to a brawl. |
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| Alex D. Boss | May 26 2014, 10:26 PM Post #23 |
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Trunks is categorized in the same group with Goku and Vegeta. Thats why people don't see a reason to put him far away from them. |
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| OmegaSaiyan2 | May 27 2014, 09:50 PM Post #24 |
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They Gaps Are Not That Big Weighted Piccolo:130,000,000 Piccolo Unweighted:185,000,000 TRUNKS Base:4,400,000 OR 22,000,000 SSJ:220,000,000(Before I Have Him At 175,000,000,BUT That Is For Trunks At Trunks Saga) GOKU Base:4,800,000 Or 24,000,000 SSJ:240,000,000 VEGETA Base:5,000,000 Or 25,000,000 SSJ:250,000,000 |
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| + miguelnuva | Jun 1 2014, 05:26 AM Post #25 |
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I have Trunks a decent amount above Piccolo but I only have him compared to Goku because of SSJ hype, Trunks had 8 months to train in my opinion and I believe Goku and Vegeta would take him out in a couple of shots. Vegeta: 255 Goku: 250 Trunks: 200 Piccolo: 150 Something like this with just rough numbers. |
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